[Doug]

Die Bengals haben ja, wie nunmehr jeder weiß, den ersten Pick.

Und deswegen gibt es auch eine Umfrage auf der Bangels-Homepage, was den mit dem ersten Pick gemacht werden bzw. wer geholt werden soll...

... und ...

bis jetzt bevorzugen die User einen CB, danach n DT...

... die weitere predictions sagen, das von den ersten 15 picks nur 3 spieler ein RB, qb oder wr sind

Was haltet ihr davon???

[SuperDuper]

also ich darf mich ja eigentlich nicht als drfat-experte aufspielen, war aber in den letzten tagen/wochen auf vielen draft-seiten. ich habe mir nicht alles gemerkt, aber 2 QBs + WRs gehen wohl unter den ersten 10 picks weg.

SuperByronÜberwacherDuper

[cwbskywalker]

Ich möchte ja jetzt nicht zuviel verraten, denn immerhin sind die Einschätzungen der rookies für den rookie Draft von enormer Bedeutung, aber einen kleinen Kommentar möchte ich doch abgeben ...
Die running back Klasse ist dieses Jahr nicht sehr stark, deswegen könnte es gut sein, dass nicht ein running back unter den ersten 15 gezogen wird.
Wie immer dürstet's vielen schlechten Teams nach einem jungem quarterback, und da gibt es neben den beiden grossen Namen evtl. noch ein oder zwei, die unter den ersten 15 bis 20 gezogen werden könnten.
Wide receiver werden ja meist nur dann hoch gedraftet, wenn sie wirkliche Ausnahmetalente sind. Eines gibt es in diesem Jahr auf jeden Fall, und noch den ein oder anderen, der vielleicht in die obere Hälfte der ersten Draftrunde rutschen könnte.
Aber im allgemeinen werden denke ich dieses Jahr wieder die defensiven Spieler, von der Anzahl her, die ersten Stunden des diesjährigen Drafts leicht dominieren.

[SuperDuper]

nur einen guten WR? da habe ich was anderes gelesen. zwei WRs unter den Top6-picks.

und vielleicht sollte ich ja doch downgraden? irgendwelche netten angebote, die man nicht abschlagen kann?


NFL draft
Mel Kiper's Top 10
1. Carson Palmer
Sr., QB, USC

2. Charles Rogers
Jr., WR, Mich. St.

3. Terrell Suggs
Jr., DE, Ariz. St.

4. Byron Leftwich
Sr., QB, Marshall

5. Andre Johnson
Jr., WR, Miami

6. Terence Newman
Sr., CB, Kansas St.

7. Jimmy Kennedy
Sr., DT, Penn St.

8. Jordan Gross
Sr., OT, Utah

9. Rien Long
Jr., DT, Wash. St.

10. Rex Grossman
Jr., QB, Florida



auf der NFL-seite:
1. Carson Palmer, QB, Southern Cal: He's got everything the scouts want in an NFL passer. Board status: Steady.

2. Terrell Suggs, DE, Arizona State: Speed pass rushers are so hard to find, which is why he is ranked so highly. He is the second coming of Julius Peppers. Board status: Rising.

3. Charles Rogers, WR, Michigan State: Think Randy Moss when you think about Rogers. He's that same type of player. Board status: Steady.

4. Byron Leftwich, QB, Marshall: There are some injury concerns that have to be cleared up at the combine. His mobility worries some teams, but big quarterbacks with good arms are hard to find. Board status: Steady.

5. Terence Newman, CB, Kansas State: Premier cover guys are hard to find. He is definitely one. Age (25) is a concern. Board status: Steady.

6. Andre Johnson, WR, Miami: Big, fast and comes from a productive passing offense. Will be a star. Board status: Steady.

7. Jimmy Kennedy, DT, Penn State: At 320 pounds, he had a very good senior season. Can be dominant against the run, and should develop as a pass rusher. Board status: Rising.

8. Dewayne Robertson, DT, Kentucky: A quick, penetrating tackle in the Warren Sapp mold. Plays a valuable position, which will help his draft stock. Board status: Steady.

9. Jordan Gross, T, Utah: Has outstanding feet, which will help him adjust to the pro game quickly. Could end up being the first offensive lineman taken. Rising.

10. Jerome McDougle, DE, Miami: This might seem high, based on his senior play. But as a junior, he was dominant. With his speed, he is a valuable player for any defense. Board status: Rising.

11. Marcus Trufant, CB, Washington State: Not in the same class as Newman, but right below him. Had an impressive Senior Bowl week. Could be higher as we get closer to April. Board status: Rising.

12. Kevin Williams, DT, Oklahoma State: Here's another player who had a great Senior Bowl week. Williams is a very active inside player. Board status: Rising.

13. Kwame Harris, T, Stanford: Can play both the right and left side, which increases his value. A tad behind Gross. Board status: Rising.

14. Jonathan Sullivan, DT, Georgia: This junior is being eyed for his power inside. He's another solid player at a talent-laden position. Board status: Steady.

15. Rex Grossman, QB, Florida: If he was an inch bigger, he might be the second passer taken. He has the arm and comes from a team that threw the ball a bunch. Love this kid. Draft status: Rising.

16. Michael Haynes, DE, Penn State: Has really made a move up most boards, although we like McDougle better. Viewed as an outside pass rusher. Board status: Rising.

17. Taylor Jacobs, WR, Florida: Impressed a bunch at the Senior Bowl, but some teams think he's overrated. This might be somewhat high, but he stays here for now. Board status: Rising.

18. William Joseph, DT, Miami: He's a big, physical tackle who didn't have a great senior season. Has the potential to be a powerful inside player. Board status: Falling.

19. Chris Simms, QB, Texas: We like this kid more than most scouts. He proved at the Senior Bowl his arm is every bit as good as Palmer's. Was inconsistent at times, but he knows the passing game. Board status: Rising.

20. Kenny Peterson, DE, Ohio State: Was impressive in the national title game against Miami, which helped his stock rise. Can play inside at tackle, too. Board status: Rising.

21. Ty Warren, DT, Texas A&M: Had an impressive Senior Bowl. Plays a position where everyone seems to be looking for one. May move higher as he works out. Rising

22. Andre Woolfolk, CB, Oklahoma: Woolfolk is a former receiver who is very raw playing the corner. Could be a two-year project. He has plenty of skills, though. Board status: Falling.

23. Boss Bailey, LB, Georgia: Is long and lean, but has the speed teams want from their linebackers. Needs to gain some weight. Bailey is an active player who could move up. Think Derrick Brooks. Board status: Falling.

24. Jason Witten, TE, Tennessee: Everybody is looking for the next Jeremy Shockey. Witten isn't quite that, but he will be a solid, pass-catching tight end. Board status: Steady.

25. Kelley Washington, WR, Tennessee: Has major attitude and injury questions, which hurt him. Has high first-round ability. He's also older after playing pro baseball before going to Tennessee. Board status: Falling.

26. George Foster, T, Georgia: He's a physical player who has overcome injuries. A wrist injury last year slowed him. He has the tools to be an effective starter early in his career and could go higher than this in April. Board status: Rising.

27. Eric Steinbach, G-T, Iowa: Played guard in college but proved he could move to tackle at the Senior Bowl. He has great feet. Will be a 10-year starter. Board status: Steady.

28. Bryant Johnson, WR, Penn State: Had a very good senior season. Has the deep speed that teams like. Could move up with good workouts. Board status: Steady.

29. Bennie Joppru, TE, Michigan: Love this kid. He has all the tools to be an effective tight end. Can get down the field. Has to improve his blocking some. Board Status: Rising.

30. Larry Johnson, RB, Penn State: This is low for the first running back, but this is a weak class. Johnson doesn't have a lot of wiggle, which worries the scouts. Board status: Falling.

31. Kyle Boller, QB, California: He's a big, strong kid with a powerful arm. Came on strong in 2002. Could be even higher as we get closer to the draft. Board status: Rising.

32. E.J. Henderson, LB, Maryland: Played the 2002 season coming off a neck injury. Didn't play like he did before the injury. That could hurt his status: Falling.

Just missed: Chris Kelsay, DE, Nebraska; Onterrio Smith, RB, Oregon; Brett Williams, T, Florida State; Mike Doss, S, Ohio State; Montrae Holland, G, Florida State; Rashean Mathis, S, Bethune-Cookman; Rien Long, DT, Washington State.

[cwbskywalker]

Ich meinte einen mit wirklichem Ausnahmetalent, und das ist halt Charles Rogers.
Andre Johnson ist, das weiss ich als 'Canes Fan natürlich, ist ebenfalls ein sehr guter Spieler, und ich denke top10 ist mehr als realistisch, aber von den Anlagen her sehe ich ihn nicht ganz in einer Klasse mit Rogers.
Naja, mal schauen.
Nach dem combine wird man mehr wissen, und je mehr es in Richtung draft geht, umso mehr wird man auch die Einstellungen der jeweiligen Teams kennen und einen genaueren mock draft abgeben können.

@ Duper: wenn Du Leftwich willst, wäre ich mit dem downtraden vorsichtig !

[SuperDuper]

@skywalker:
nun, wenn jemand an #1 will, um palmer zu draften, habe ich keine probleme mit einem downgraden bis maximal #4. ist byron dann weg, nehme ich einen von den beiden WRs. ist halt alles eine frage des preises... :wink:

SuperWuchererDuper

[SuperDuper]

Updating previous reports, the Detroit Free Press reports Detroit Lions head coach Steve Mariucci shed some light on his drafting strategy Thursday by accidentally slipping his speech. When asked about Bobby Williams’ evaluation of his former player, Michigan State WR Charles Rogers, Mariucci said, “Well, he recruited him, so obviously he thinks the world of him. He’s going to be coaching him now…” Mariucci then quickly caught himself and followed with: “If he were to be on our football team, because I asked Bobby to coach the wide receivers.”

Mike O'Hara reports for the Detroit News the Detroit Lions are preparing to release WR Germane Crowell. As previously noted, has a $2 million payment due by March 2 for the team to pick up the last two years of a three-year contract. Coach Steve Mariucci was diplomatic in talking about Crowell's future. "We're still in discussions," Mariucci said Thursday at the NFL's annual combine. "Players like that deserve to have as much discussion as possible." The team could look to re-sign Crowell at a later time.

[SuperDuper]

Updating previous reports, Len Pasquarelli for ESPN.com reports the Cincinnati Bengals look to be holding onto the No. 1 overall pick in the NFL Draft, mainly because there isn’t much interest out there from another team wanting to trade up. The Bengals aren’t set on taking USC QB Carson Palmer, or another QB for that matter, though, and they might look instead at taking Kansas State CB Terence Newman. Bengals vice president Katie Blackburn has spoken with Newman’s agent, David Ware, about what his contract expectations would be if he were selected No. 1. While it isn’t a tell-tale sign that this is the direction the team will take, it at least shows they are entertaining the idea.

[cwbskywalker]

Ok, das stimmt, wenn es wirklich jemanden gibt, der unbedingt an eins will, könntest Du daraus Kapital schlagen.

[SuperDuper]

Mlive.com reports, while press regarding the Detroit Lions signals they are ready to take Michigan State WR Charles Rogers with the No. 2 pick in the first round, Arizona State DE Terrell Suggs could still be a possibility. Suggs is quickly moving up the draft board, as he arrived at the NFL Scouting Combine at 262 pounds, about 15 pounds heavier than his playing weight last season.