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NFL DRAFT 2003
#51

Houston Texans coach Dom Capers told Dave Richard of NFL.com his team is not looking to move up in the NFL Draft. When asked if the team had any talks about moving up, Capers replied, "No, we have not discussed that whatsoever. The only discussions have been with people that want to come up to the third pick because they have a player in mind."
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#52

Bengals.com's Geoff Hobson reports Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis said Marshall QB Byron Leftwich is still in the race to be the team's No. 1 draft pick. In fact, the Bengals have the right to start negotiating with the No. 1 pick before the April 26-27 NFL Draft, but Lewis indicated it won’t be before April 7. That is the day Leftwich will hold his on-campus workout. "We need to see him work out. I think that’s important,” Lewis said. “What he did this year on tape, it’s warranted. We want to make sure we go through the process."
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#53

Jay Glazer reports for SportsLine.com the Washington Redskins have offered CB Fred Smoot to the Detroit Lions in an attempt to move up to the No. 2 pick in the April draft. According to multiple league sources close to the situation, Washington's offer was not enough to prompt the Lions to drop from the No. 2 slot all the way back to the Redskins No. 13. It is unclear who the Redskins covet so much that they would be willing to part ways with one of the league's best cover men.
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#54

BREAKDOWN: Top QBs

Some are calling the 2003 quarterback class the best since five went in the first round of the '99 draft, including three in the first three picks. Here's how several league-personnel types view the best of the best.


Carson Palmer
USC
1st round
Bengals eyeing Heisman winner with No. 1 pick.

Byron Leftwich
Marshall
1st
Played through pain late, but still viewed as top-10 guy.

Rex Grossman
Florida
1st
UF's first 1st-round QB since John Reaves in '72?

Chris Simms
Texas
2nd
Great pedigree and excellent Senior Bowl showing.

Kyle Boller
California
2nd
Had great senior season after struggling his first three years.

Dave Ragone
Louisville
3rd-4th
Tough guy who needs some polish.

Kliff Kingsbury
Texas Tech
4th-5th
Incredible numbers in dink-and-dunk passing offense.

Ken Dorsey
Miami
4th-6th
Great record as a starter, but arm strength in question.
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#55

@duck: der wird evtl. von den packers gedraftet:


Rex Grossman's draft stock is rising quickly


INDIANAPOLIS -- The question came from the rear of the media pack.

How aware are you of the teams that need quarterbacks?

Rex Grossman broke into a smile that beamed with the trademark confidence that bubbled throughout his three eventful seasons at Florida.

"I know what's going on," he said.

The NFL knows what's going on with Grossman, too. He is climbing on draft boards across the league. Once projected to go anywhere from late in the first round to the middle of the second, Grossman now is considered no worse than the third-best prospect in a deep 2003 quarterback class and probably will go somewhere in the first 20 selections April 26.

"He'd be a guy you'd want in a street game," said Jim Goodman, director of college scouting for the Denver Broncos, in between sessions Friday at the NFL Combine. "He's got accuracy, he's got arm strength and a never-say-die attitude. And he never makes excuses. I like that."

Denver, which is expected to release starter Brian Griese in June, along with Cincinnati, Chicago, Arizona, Carolina, Jacksonville, Baltimore and Green Bay, are teams that will be looking for quarterbacks either through free-agency or the draft. Packers consultant Ron Wolf, one of the most respected personnel men in the game, has gone so far as to hail Grossman, at his current stage, as the closest thing he has seen to a young Brett Favre.

USC's Carson Palmer and Marshall's Byron Leftwich are expected to go before Grossman, with Texas' Chris Simms, California's Kyle Boller, Louisville's Dave Ragone, Texas Tech's Kliff Kingsbury and Miami's Ken Dorsey falling later among a position group that personnel types are rating as the best since the '99 draft, when five quarterbacks were taken in the first round.

Where Grossman could distinguish himself is during Sunday's workout inside the RCA Dome, a place where he won a state championship as a senior for Bloomington (Ind.) South, just 40 miles away.

On the advice of their agents, Palmer, Simms and Boller have told teams they will not throw during the designated quarterback session. Leftwich, who is recovering from a broken leg, won't throw, either, meaning all eyes will be on Grossman.

"I want to throw. That's my specialty. That's what I do. That's what I'm going to do in the NFL," Grossman said. "I guess you can say I'm trying to show off, though I don't mean that in a cocky way. We're here to work out. I've been concentrating on throwing so much. I want them to see what I can do."

Don't think teams aren't appreciative.

"You're thrilled that he's actually working out," Ravens Coach Brian Billick said. "A lot of guys don't."

What Billick and everybody else will see is the rifle arm and quick, compact release that allowed Grossman to throw for 9,164 yards and 77 touchdowns during his UF career. Since announcing early last month that he wouldn't return for his senior season, Grossman has spent a good chunk of time in Tampa working with former NFL quarterback Steve DeBerg.

"He's taught me a lot of good footwork technique," Grossman said. "He's also taught me how to break down a defense and watch tape and do some little things that an 18-year [NFL] veteran would be able to teach you."

What Sunday's workout won't show is the moxie, attitude and feel for the game that Grossman had at Florida -- particularly during his two seasons with Steve Spurrier on the sideline. Last season -- with a new coach (Ron Zook), a new coordinator (Ed Zaunbrucher) and a new offense (with an emphasis on the short passing game) -- Grossman struggled as the Gators went 8-5. But learning a new offense and dealing with adversity might not have been a bad thing.

"I think that made me have to be a stronger person and stronger quarterback," he said.

Grossman's mental makeup and arm strength aren't questioned. If there's any knock on him, it's his height. He measured in at 6 feet 1.

"If he was 6-2 or 6-3, everybody would be in love with him," said Spurrier, now coach of the Washington Redskins. "But he's [6-1] so nobody's sure about him."

Given his track record, it's a safe bet the surest person about Rex Grossman is Rex Grossman. In fact, he says he'd love to take his new team's first snap next September.

"If a coach asked me to play, I would not shy away," he said.

Another question came from the back of the pack.

You're pretty confident, aren't you?

Grossman smiled.

"You got to be."
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#56

Slow market for No. 1 pick

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By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com


INDIANAPOLIS -- Holders of the first overall choice in the draft, the Cincinnati Bengals are in a bit of a pickle right now, because they would prefer not to exercise the pick.


Carson Palmer is expected to be the No. 1 overall pick in the draft.
But the problem for Cincinnati, and one that became obvious here this week at the annual predraft scouting combine, is that no franchise is keen on moving up into the first slot to select Carson Palmer, the Heisman Trophy winner and former Southern Cal star.

Too many teams in need of help at the quarterback position, like Chicago which owns the fourth overall selection, are wary of paying big money to a guy who has had only one big season in college. And certainly Cincinnati owner Mike Brown, burned in the past by high first-round choices like Ki-Jana Carter and Akili Smith, is hardly sold on the idea of investing an eight-figure signing bonus in an unproven commodity.

He might not have much of a choice, however, unless action on that first overall choice is enhanced in the next two months.

Bengals rookie head coach Marvin Lewis, whose area of expertise is on the defensive side of the ball, almost certainly would like to deal down from the first pick and take a lineman (like Penn State tackle Jimmy Kennedy) or a cornerback (Terence Newman of Kansas State). Under that scenario, the Bengals would then take a young quarterback for the future -- they are more than infatuated by Chris Simms of Texas -- with the first pick in the second round.

But for that to happen, there has to be a market for the first choice, and at this point there isn't.
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#57

SuperDuper schrieb:@duck: der wird evtl. von den packers gedraftet:

Rex Grossman's draft stock is rising quickly

Gerade heute habe ich irgendwo einen Kommentar gelesen, dass die Packers sich um einen jungen QB kümmern sollten. Ich weiß jetzt nicht mehr, wo :?

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#58

Thema Grossman

Ja, die Packers sind dran, stand vor 2 wochen schon bei kffl, nur sein value is mitlerweile etwas gesunken, da er (grossman) sich so n bischen mit seiner vorlauten klappe vergaloppiert hat, und ein weiteres zeichen is da auch für mich, das die packers den dritten qb nall gerad heute in die nfl europe zum practice sammeln abgestellt haben

30.01.1949 - 06.02.2008: In memoriam Henry Eugène

Fought cancer, won the fight ... nuff said
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#59

Jetzt muss ich auch mal meinen Senf zu der ganzen Sache loswerden.
Ich habe ja schon vor längerer Zeit angemerkt, dass es eigentlich Blödsinn ist, schon vor dem NFL Draft zu draften.
Ich denke, dass ich hier noch einer derjenigen bin, die sich am meisten mit college football auskennen, und selbst ich könnte vorher nicht wirklich sicher ziehen, weil einfach zuviel davon abhängt, wo ein Spieler hinkommt. Es bringt einem ja nichts, wenn beispielsweise ein top running back in ein Team kommt, das bereits zwei Topleute hat.
Allerdings sehe ich natürlich ein, dass hier einige aufgrund dieser Regelung bereits getradet haben, und dass man es deswegen nicht mehr ändern kann.
Aber: wenn jetzt auch noch die zweite Draftrunde nach dem Draft stattfindet, dann ist die Verarschung meiner Meinung nach komplett ! :evil:
Ich fand's schon nicht so die dolle Regelung, nach Anmeldungen die draft order zu bestimmen ...
Das ist meiner Meinung nach einfach ein no-no, aber gut.
Aber dann jetzt den Teams, die sowieso schon beim normalen Draft vorne waren, noch einen Vorteil zu geben, indem sie -trades lasse ich mal aussen vor- die erste Chance auf "feste" rookies, sprich solche, die bereits einen Verein haben, bekommen, da muss ich sagen, da schwindet mein Interesse an dieser Liga doch ungemein !
Das finde ich absolut nicht in Ordnung, und diese Regelung muss auf jeden Fall geändert werden, das sehe ich echt nicht ein !
Sorry, aber das ist meine Meinung !
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#60

hm, sorry sky, aber das stand vorher schon fest, wie das geregelt wird, und wir 2 sind als letztes dazugekommen, da können wir nich die regeln ändern...

ok, einerseits hast du recht, das die ersten jetzt gegenüber den #10 und tiefer haben, aber wie soll das deiner meinung nach geändert werden. es gibt schließlich jetzt schon glaub ich teams, die gar keinen rookie ppick mehr haben...

30.01.1949 - 06.02.2008: In memoriam Henry Eugène

Fought cancer, won the fight ... nuff said
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